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Foscam IP Camera (Part Two)

Posted by Bubbah Thursday, July 23, 2009


I have to add an update (already) on the FI8908W that I presented earlier, and this time, there's good news for Linux, Mac and Firefox users! (corresponding firmware for fi8909w-NA and fi8903/04w here)

Since people at Foscam already proved very responsive, I sent them another question about the chances to see some support for non-ActiveX browsers in a future firmware.

While I expected something like "sorry, this is not planned for this product", the actual answer was:
"Here is an updated firmware with server push mode (for Firefox, chrome an such) and also the method to directly intercept the video stream into VLC"...!!!

To the reply was attached a newer firmware 11.14.1.42 and Web UI 2.4.8.11 to replace the original 11.14.1.34 and Web UI 2.4.8.9
After that update, the login page presented an additional login section for the non-ActiveX browsers (Server Push Mode).
IP Camera login page

The control interface is similar to the operator interface of the ActiveX version presented earlier (no visitor section, so, no sound control and no multi-device support), but this time, it's platform independent!

I only started to play with the new interface today, but here are some possibilities already:

Loading the live view directly:
http://ipcam_url/live.htm

Taking a snapshot from the camera (convenient when accessing from a mobile phone):
http://ipcam_url/snapshot.cgi
















Loading the stream into a media player such as VLC:
http://ipcam_url/videostream.asf?user=username&pwd=password

Below is the updated verdict:

Pros:
+ Good set of features
+ Good image quality day and night
+ Responsive technical support
+ Platform Independent, Linux friendly, Apple friendly, Mobile Phone...
+ Video stream can be intercepted into VLC

Cons:
- UPnP still not usable
- Poor embedded speaker quality

A word of caution about non-Foscam clones and firmware update:
I became aware that some ip cameras exactly similar in look to the fi8908w are using a totally different firmware. Their fw cannot be flashed on Foscam and Foscam fw cannot be flashed on them. This would instantly turn your device into a paperweight (as seen here).

With recent feedback, it appears that the cameras sold by DealExtreme are not specifically from Foscam. On eBay, it's also a mix and if you are lucky, the seller will show some screenshots of the interface on his page.

If the interface of your camera looks like any of these:


...chances are that you have a camera that is not compatible with Foscam firmware.

Pay also attention to the box appearance when showed by the seller (Foscam box look like this).

So beware, don't try to mix and match, it takes just 10 seconds to brick your toy forever!

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128 comments

  1. wat Says:
  2. @Bubbah

    Please fix the link, because its not working.

    thx

     
  3. Bubbah Says:
  4. @ wat

    This new link should work.

     
  5. Anthony Says:
  6. Hi my new camera (bought from dealextream) with newest firmware version 43

    1)canNOT connect to WPA2 (TKIP+EAS).
    2)seems to connect wirelessly (LED flashing fast) to my network with WPA EAS, but I can not access to web interface of the camera.
    3) Eth cable connection has no problem and everything is working fine

    Anyone has the asme problem? Please suggest me a solution.

     
  7. Anthony Says:
  8. I found something here:
    http://www.dealextreme.com/forums/Default.dx/sku.26358~threadid.389828

    I 'll try to disable UPnP to see if it works with my DLink Dl624 router, and I 'll post the result here

     
  9. Anthony Says:
  10. I got it working, but the wifi connection is not reliable. I am not sure disabling Upnp helps in this case. When i open the web interface from internet, the camera scrashes and cannot re-eatablish connection.
    I am using Dlink DI624 router with WPA2 AES encription.

     
  11. spou Says:
  12. Received a look alike today, but I'm afraid to updrade the FW because I dont want a brick.

    I took a chance and opened the thing. inside, some high density chips, (hynix, nuvoton) and some markings on the PCB:
    "IPCAM_PT2_V3.2a"

    BTW, the sticker underneath the camera, the one with markings "VNT6656GA40", this sticker seems to be about the WIFI module in the camera, but I'm not sure 100%

    Few people here have briked their cam , and there is not worries about opening the cam and checking markings. Can we compare notes?

    TIA
    Spou

     
  13. saud Says:
  14. Hi ..

    I have purchased an IP CAM and it was working fine in my LAN network and it's IP was shown in IP Camera Tool and I can access to it easily, but after is start updating with firmware 11.14.1.42, it is not shown in IP Camera Tool even when it is connected through the network by wire and the lights were blinking showing that there is a connectivity ? Can somebody help me on that ?

    I think that the update was not completed successfully and I have tried to reset it but it is the same ..

     
  15. Bubbah Says:
  16. @saud
    If the camera does not make its initial rotation at startup, then it's bricked.
    If it does and starts looking for a network, then maybe it changed to a different IP address (should not but maybe). Your router should detect an incoming connection either in the log or the DHCP list.
    You could also try to run a sniffer like Wireshark to detect any incoming network activity from the camera.
    Finally if you are sure your camera is a Foscam FI8908w so the firmware was appropriate but flashing went bad, you may try to get it exchanged under the guarantee.
    Good luck.

     
  17. kevc Says:
  18. Hi everyone, I just bought a cam off ebay and all the markings on it made me believe it was a foscam and it was. I updated the firmware and the web gui and everything went fine. I purchased IP Vision Pro for my IPhone and it now allows you the ability to write your own camera config. I wrote one for the Foscam and had all the pan and tilt functions working. Just putting some finishing touches on it. Once its done and I have tested it I will make it available to who ever may need it. It will only work with IP Vision Pro, it's little pricey, but it's great software.

     
  19. kevc Says:
  20. Just tested it some more and I can pan left-right, tilt up-down, up left, down left and so on. The home button works as well. If anyone wants it let me know. I'm also using the most current firmware, not sure if that makes a difference.

     
  21. Anthony Says:
  22. @KevC
    I am interested in the IP Vision Pro config file. I have not bought the sw yet, but could you please post it here, so everybody could use it.

     
  23. Bubbah Says:
  24. @Anthony,

    It's already there, but in the appropriate page.

     
  25. Steve Says:
  26. Well I upgraded to the 43 release, which appeared to work fine, but for the life of me I couldn't get the wireless working (WPA basic TKIP), which was odd as it worked without a problem on the base release. It looks like its working from the light, but the web page didn't load.

    I downgraded to the 42 release and it worked straight away.

    Not conclusive as wireless is a bag of worms at the best of times, but I'll stay on 42, it does the key part of avoiding the active x control.

     
  27. Anthony Says:
  28. It's good to know Steve. This 43 release wifi is driving me crazy for the whole week. Right now I have it working, but I am not sure it 'll work after a router or camera reboot. I 'll try it for a few more days and if it is not reliable, I 'll go back 42.

    Anybody got this fake foscam works reliably on 43, please confirm?

    BR

     
  29. informatica Says:
  30. to pc off but transmits only 6 frames per minute and true?

     
  31. dada Says:
  32. I have notices that i can not get a list of wireless networks after i clicked SCAN function.. The list appears empty. And im sure there are networks available.

     
  33. Paul Says:
  34. I purchased a camera off eBay thinking it was the same as camera's advertised by other sellers. It came in a white box (not the Foscam red and white box) and a web-interface like the one posted at the top of this thread ('NotFoscam.jpg').

    Unfortunately it only connects using WEP, not WPA which was quite a blow for me. Other than that it works great with the latest firmware. The manufacturer is 'MayGion' and their website is (mostly in Chinese):-

    www.maygion.com

     
  35. Anthony Says:
  36. @dada
    Most of the times, I have to click Scan twice to get the list. The strange thing is once I clock on my network in the list, it always shows WPA even though my wifi router is set at WPA2.

    @Paul: mine is from DX with red/white box but it is a fake foscam. I loaded version 34 and manage to get wifi WPA2 works unreliably.

     
  37. Bubbah Says:
  38. @Paul

    Did you try their firmware update dated 2009.09.15?
    There is also a "contact us":xwpcom@163.com

     
  39. Paul Says:
  40. @Bubbah

    Yes I'm currently using the 2009.09.15 firmware but in the wireless settings I only see 'WEP' in the list.

    I emailed the xwpcom@163.com a few days ago.... but no response yet :-(

    I don't suppose anyone has heard of MayGion? Would the firmware that Anthony mentioned work on my camera?

     
  41. Ale Says:
  42. Hi to all,

    I have bought 2 cams from a chinese ebay account.
    The cams look like the Foscam.

    They both work well with IE (I can switch from the first to the second camera).

    With Google chrome I can just see One camera (there is not the button to change camera).

    Whith Safari (IPHONE) I can see the first camera without pan\tilt.

    I cannot hear the audio with any system

    QUESTIONS:

    -Can you hear the audio?

    -With IP vision Pro for IPHONE (it costs a lot!) can you change the camera to display (from the internet, not the lan)?

    Thanks

     
  43. Bubbah Says:
  44. @Ale,
    IE is the only browser working with the ActiveX mode (it only works with ActiveX and doesn't support Push Mode). To hear the audio in ActiveX mode, you must click on the audio icon in the "For Visitor" section(an ugly little icon representing a microphone with a lot of imagination)

    Firefox, Chrome, and Opera 10(very bad results with this one!) will only support Server Push Mode.
    In this mode, there is no multi-device support and no sound support. It is limited to the "For Operator" section of the AX interface.

    A way to get the sound outside the IE context is to connect to the camera from VLC player pointing to http://camera_url/videostream.asf

     
  45. spou Says:
  46. Concerning cameras with the lable stating "VNT6656GA40"

    Those cameras *DO NOT* come from VINET.

    I contacted them with pictures, and received this:

    >Hi,
    >
    >I saw attached pictures, this kinds of camera is not my company >product, so I can not help you.
    >
    >Kindly please visit my website www.vinet.cn to learn about my >products, you will know it doesn't
    >belong to vinet products
    >
    >Please contact your supplier.
    >
    >Best regards,
    >
    >David
    >Sales Manager
    >International Marketing Department
    >Vinet TECH (Shenzhen). Co., Ltd.
    >Tel: +86-755-28722811 ext 820 Fax: +86-755-28722811 ext 868
    >Email: sales@vinet.cn Website: www.vinet.cn

    So the whole question remains:
    Should I try to update the firmware, knowing that if the code is not for this camera, I'll get a 100$ paperweight

    Anybody ever tried to do so?

     
  47. Bubbah Says:
  48. @spou
    we kind of established that already in this other page but thanks for confirming.

    To stay on the safe side, you should contact the seller to get the manufacturer and, if not Foscam, where to get the latest fw.
    If he confirms your camera is a Foscam but you brick it with firmwares from here, you'd be rightly entitled to claim a replacement from him under the warranty.

     
  49. Anthony Says:
  50. For those do not have wifi at all, please check the link below (from DX forum)
    -----------------------
    I bought this camera less than a month, wireless does not work, I decided to open the bottom of the camera, removed the four screws, identified the wireless network card that, the same as a USB adapter, I entered the manufacturer's site?: ( http://products.epro-itx.com/WiFi/WIFI-MODULE-OG.pdf) and identique missing a jumper from pin 6 to ground, making it the wereless the camera work

     
  51. Pilotguide Says:
  52. I was wondering if anyone here has tried using these cameras with OSX? I have an application called EVOCAM that will allow me to connect to IP cameras. There is a generic camera model which in turn looks for a direct link to an MJPEG or JPEG file. It also works using video.cgi on some cameras. Would linking directly to "http://camera_url/videostream.asf" work? Does FOSCAM have public IP's to demo cameras that could play around with to see if this will work?
    I hope this makes sense... :P

     
  53. Tim Says:
  54. I own a genuine Foscam FI8908W IP camera, I have had it for one week. It is running the latest FW that I had emailed to me straight from tech support at Foscam (versions= 2.4.8.12.bin and lr_cmos_11_14_1_43.bin)

    I was viewing some pages internal to my D-Link router only to find that the Foscam is making a huge number of outbound internet connections on many of it's ports. It has made over 100 of these connections on its own, I have not initiated them.

    The site that it is connecting to is 75.125.178.178:80. I did a web search to find that this site belongs to THEPLANET.COM INTERNET SERVICES INC.

    My Foscam FI8908W LAN IP is 192.168.1.105, here is a typical example of the connection:

    Internal Protocol External 192.168.1.105:4251 TCP 75.125.178.178:80

    Anyone know why is my Foscam doing this? A detailed explanation would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks, Tim

     
  55. Bubbah Says:
  56. @Tim
    Do you use ntp? Maybe it's for the clock sync? It's one of the services hosted on that domain: ntp.theplanet.com
    I don't use ntp and my firewall is set to be quite restrictive so I don't have that sort of traffic. I will test it. It shouldn't need to be that chatty just to sync the clock.

     
  57. Bubbah Says:
  58. @Pilotguide
    The generic model should work with "videostream.cgi" anyway.
    I didn't find a list of compatible cameras on evological.com but sometimes brands like "Shenzhen" or "BSTI" could work as well.

     
  59. Tim Says:
  60. @Bubbah
    I just checked your other Foscam thread and unfortunately my camera base matches the "non-Foscam" one. Dammit!

    I ordered this recently from DealExtreme, it came in the red & white box, and it IS running the very latest FWs direct from Foscam, 2.4.8.12.bin and lr_cmos_11_14_1_43.bin. So far this IP camera is working perfectly except for all of the unauthorized outbound connections.

    I think this fake one might contain some malware that is making all those connections. I do use NTP, but it is for the local Boulder CO one and I do see just two entries on my router's connections page for the IP camera completing that function.

    Any idea on how I block the IP camera from contacting the site mentioned in my previous post on a D-Link router? Else, getting rid of the malware inside of the camera? Thanks.

     
  61. pdxazn Says:
  62. Hi,

    Is there a way to reboot the camera remotely without physically unplug it?

    Thanks,

     
  63. Bubbah Says:
  64. @pdxazn
    You can either click on "Reboot Device" in the Camera Management section, or simpler, just use this url:
    http://IPCamURL/reboot.cgi

    You could also issue this before rebooting:
    http://IPCamURL/set_misc.cgi?ptz_center_onstart=0
    This way, your camera will not do its initial rotation and remains in its current position.

     
  65. dada Says:
  66. How much did you guys actually pay for those foscams ?
    I bought 1 for 84 USD including DHL shipping..

    An other question: My cam is uploading IMAGES to my network hard drive ( ftp )
    is the same possible with VIDEOS which are recorded?
    If yes, how ?
    Many Thanks !

     
  67. Bubbah Says:
  68. @dada
    Both fake and Foscam are in that same price range.

    You can't do unattended video recording. You'd need a PC software to do this. I'm also currently testing the Surveillance Station from Synology DS109 (Network Attached Storage), which can do that as well.

     
  69. Tim Says:
  70. I did fix the issue of the camera self-connecting to the WAN by changing some settings in my router.

    I also found a source for 100% genuine Foscam products here in the USA, the real FI8908W is $110 shipped. Will be interesting to compare it to my fake one.

     
  71. Oku Says:
  72. I got mine from Dealextreme, real one Foscam, I think, because firmware update work fine.

    Excellent camera by this price!

    But 2 questions:

    a) ftp do not work, I have try many different servers, but always "server error"?

    b) How this external pins 1 and 2 work? I mean I/O Linkage on Alarm. I have connect meter to pins and try to make alarm (and on the page click this releay buttons on/off). Relay make sound, but nothing happends, no power, no connect??(input pins work fine if I connect wire ends)

    And big thanks for Bubbah, this pages are really needed.

     
  73. Bubbah Says:
  74. Cheers Oku!

    a)your best test should be to compare with a ftp from a "Dos box" command line. The same really should work for the camera. Check also PASV and PORT in FTP Mode.

    b) check my reply to tessen49 on
    this page
    I didn't try it myself but it's how I understand it should work.

     
  75. AikBay Says:
  76. Hello, I purchased this camera and am testing the software with Dave Selby, the Kmotion2.
    http://kmotion.eu
    Already I can see by inserting a url http://192.168.xx/video.cgi
    But I can not use the controls and move the camera in any way from kmotion2.
    Can anyone guide me where is the problem?
    Thank you

     
  77. Bubbah Says:
  78. @AikBay
    You should find some help in the CGI documents on this page.
    I'll give it a try with kmotion2 when I'm back home.

     
  79. pdxazn Says:
  80. My Foscam kept freezing.

    I have this Foscam with the latest firmware installed. But it kept freezing after only a few hours in use. I have to pull the power and re-plug it back it before it would run again. I have to do that every day. That means I could not hang it in a remote local where I could not reach the power supply. It is very useless and frustrating. Does any one else have this kind of problem? Do you have any troubleshooting advice to offer?

    Thanks in advance.

     
  81. Bubbah Says:
  82. @pdxazn
    Foscam is aware of a problem with their camera disconnecting and are working on a fw update to solve this. The problem is mainly that the camera cannot recover by itself from a disconnection. Some user suggested here that electric appliance such as microwave oven could cause this. Maybe you could check if your disconnection coincide with any device turning on or off ?

     
  83. Anthony Says:
  84. @pdxazn
    That is the problem I am coping with right now. I thought it was because of my router since most of people here saying that they have the cam working OK.
    One thing I notice is the cam can NEVER lease an IP from the router.

     
  85. Tim Says:
  86. This is interesting. I logged onto my router to check up on my genuine Foscam FI8908W, and just like my counterfeit one it had MANY outbound connections (ports) open to IP 75.125.178.178:80.

    I did a search and found out it is the same place as before, theplanet.com Internet Services Inc in Dallas TX. I have now blocked this internally in my router.

    Has anyone else seen this and does anyone know why the Foscam is connecting on so many outbound ports to theplanet.com?

    Thanks.

     
  87. Tim Says:
  88. One more thing; I emailed Foscam and asked them specifically what all these open outbound ports were and what purpose they were serving, I'll post once I hear back.

     
  89. Bubbah Says:
  90. @Tim
    I was wondering if it could be due to some option activated in the settings, like the clock sync. I don't use it because of the lack of DST support, and I don't have any such outbound connection from any of my 2 Foscam's.

     
  91. Tim Says:
  92. Definitely not the time sync. There is a single entry on the "active sessions" page in my router (one for each of my IP cameras) that shows the time sync connection to the NIST server, all of the other connections (before I blocked them) were to 75.125.178.178:80 at "theplanet.com" in TX. I wish I could post a screen capture photo as it would make it very clear.

    The outbound ports the FI8908W is using are in the 42XX range, and it is utilizing TCP.

    Example: Int=192.168.1.105:4243 Outbound to Ext=75.125.178.178:80 TCP NAT=4243 Priority=128 Time Out=230

    Before I blocked them there were maybe 75-100 of these connections each using a different outbound port on the FI8908W (which is 192.168.1.105 in the example above).

    No one else has seen this?

     
  93. Nick Says:
  94. I have used both the foscam original and the clone (maygion)...one of the drawbacks of the foscam original is that it will NOT work on most mobile phones....does not work on Motorola Q and many other verizon phones whereas the clone has no problem and works on pretty much all the smart phones..so that is definitely a plus..

     
  95. Bubbah Says:
  96. @Nick
    Have you tried the j2me camera player (with jbed utility) ?
    It can be found here
    It should at least work on the Moto.

     
  97. tux Says:
  98. Received one of these Foscams recently and notice that this cam is very slow at focusing. ie, when one moves a little faster than a normal walk, the picture is very blurred (out of focus). Is this normal for this cam or is mine a dud? Maybe someone has a video from this cam on youtube or something so I can compare?

     
  99. luis Says:
  100. Hi,this is very slow IPCam focuses very bad if the image is something fast, the color is not real, red purple color changes, only the colors look good under fluorescent tube lighting

     
  101. Bubbah Says:
  102. @tux
    the focus on these cameras is done manually by turning the lens ring, but you maybe mean the frame rate is not good while in "patrol" mode. This depends on different factors: if the camera is connected to Ethernet, the frame rate is acceptable in all cases, but in Wi-Fi, it really is choppy if resolution is higher than 320x240.

    @tux and luis: I've recently replaced one of my camera lens by wide angle one: it both improve the sharpness a bit and almost eliminates the need of PTZ because of the much wide field of vision, check this post for details.

    Finally, don't forget it's the cheapest wireless PTZ ip cam on the market after all. I think they have better PTZ to be released soon, but the price will certainly be different.

     
  103. luis Says:
  104. Bubbah Hi, you've had problems with your new lens when no lighting? your lens lets through the IR?
    I changed the lens with one that had a webcam, and at night without lighting not working

     
  105. Bubbah Says:
  106. @luis
    I've just checked now as my ipcam is in a dark room and the night vision is still as good as before.

     
  107. phoenix Says:
  108. Hi,
    I have an ebay foscam clone. All was working well until 2 days ago when the vertcial movement(tilt) stopped working. I have 2 cameras and one works fine via internet and LAN, the second..which WAS working fine, now has no Y axis movement. This fault occurs in wored and wireless mode, after a reset etc etc.
    Any ideas...motors damaged (it hasnt been touched/forced etc).

    Steve

     
  109. Bubbah Says:
  110. @phoenix
    I had a similar problem with a white Foscam where the brackets didn't seems to have enough grip on the camera globe. I sometimes managed to get it working again by (gently) pulling then pushing the brackets so the dented wheels inside where re-aligned. But this is not a durable solution of course and I had it replaced under the warranty.

     
  111. rcrouse Says:
  112. Bubbah
    have you found a way to pass the username and password via the url to bypass the login screen?

     
  113. Bubbah Says:
  114. @rcourse,
    well, sort of...

    If you just want to access the stream, that's documented here. The url would look like:

    http://myhost.dyndns.org/videostream.asf?user=admin&pwd=whatever
    --> that's valid for any cgi command

    But I'm not sure for accessing the full interface.
    I've tried urls like these:

    http://name:password@myhost.dyndns.org/serverpush.htm
    http://name:password@myhost.dyndns.org/monitor.htm

    I get a working interface but all the labels on the form appear as "undefined". Not really nice.

     
  115. phoenix Says:
  116. Hi,
    Lately I've been getting some wierd things happening with the interface in IE8. After the login page the main operator window will show, sometimes with javascript lines of code at the bottom (and access to the camera doesnt work). Sometimes I have to reload the login page several times before a successful 'operator' screen appears.
    Its as if the pages dont always load properly. Sometimes after a successful loading, I will switch to 'aministrator' and then THAT page will load with errors and be useless, so I have to again return to the login page.
    Anyone else having this preoblem.
    Oh, and the 'undefined' problem described above occurs sometimes too when a page is reloaded. All of these seem intermittent, with no pattern and I just have to keepo reloading the login page and start all over again.

     
  117. Bubbah Says:
  118. @phoenix,
    I systematically get IE8 crashing on Windows 7 when entering the administrator settings. I don't have this with IE8 on XP. Maybe there's some security setting to adjust on 7? I didn't investigate much so far as I mostly use the Server Push mode anyway.

     
  119. Mike Says:
  120. anyone know of a stream url so that I can use this with the webcam option with OrbLive?

     
  121. tabarak Says:
  122. I want to get me one cam of those , can any one tell me where I can buy a reliable one ,and if there are betters one in the market
    thanks

     
  123. Bubbah Says:
  124. @tabarak,
    eBay item #160375074695 and #170396848810 (use these numbers in eBay search field)
    These are the two resellers where I got my Foscam cameras from. But ask they first, in case they changed for a cheaper brand since.

     
  125. Yiannis Says:
  126. Original Foscam eBay Item number: 260477039429

     
  127. pboye Says:
  128. Hi Bubbah.

    Have you succeded in connecting your foscam with your Synology?

    re:" I'm also currently testing the Surveillance Station from Synology DS109 (Network Attached Storage)"

     
  129. Bubbah Says:
  130. @pboye,
    yes, but as "User Define", and I entered "/videostream.cgi" as the source path. So it works but w/o PTZ.

     
  131. pboye Says:
  132. @Bubbah

    Thank you, that solved my problem.

     
  133. bill Says:
  134. Something curious ....

    The picture in the ad showed 5 volts on the rear of the unit, and when it arrived, that's what it was marked. And, silly me, I'd ordered my Linksys POE splitter in 5 volt flavor.

    The adapter supplied WITH the 5 volt (marked) camera was marked 12 volts. And it's output measured ... 12 volts. And, the camera works fine with it plugged into the hole marked 5 volts.

    About all I can say is ... BEWARE what you plug in. It might not be what you think it is. And, a $90 dollar camera is a bit much to waste to this sort of mistake.

    I'll send along a photo of the installation if anybody wants ...

    Wild_Bill1004

     
  135. Bubbah Says:
  136. @bill,
    I just tested my Foscam fi8908w: adapter is market and measured as 5v. My transformer is "made in Germany" but I'm not surprised that some Chinese adapters can come with such a fantasist labeling.

     
  137. Nick Says:
  138. Has anyone had problem with WebcamXP Pro crashing with Windows 7?

     
  139. Nick Says:
  140. Has anyone had cameras disconnecting from wireless point after being up a day or so...I have had this happen on one of my cameras....cure is to unplug and plug it back in...interested to hear if anyone has had this type of problem...and possibly an explanation/cure..

     
  141. Bubbah Says:
  142. @Nick
    WebcamXP website claims: "webcamXP 5 has been specially designed for Windows Vista and Windows 7", so that should be reported to them. I'll check it against my W7.

    There's a known pending bug where the camera is unable to reconnect by itself when it looses the connection. Foscam is aware of this.

     
  143. Mark Says:
  144. Just installed and tested my own IPCAM02 ( 9/10 Rating )
    For those having trouble switching over to Wireless...
    1.Using Wireless Lan ... enable and scan for Router, enter key, SUBMIT.
    2. Enter your CAM's MAC address (found on bottom of cam) to Wireless MAC Security in your Router.
    3. Unplug Ethernet and PWR from CAM, Re-PWR the CAM and your Wireless will work.

    -----
    IPCAM02
    Device Firmware Version 11.14.1.46
    Device Embeded Web UI Version 2.4.8.12

     
  145. DOCWHO Says:
  146. Anyone know how to adjust the color within the User Interface ?

     
  147. saud Says:
  148. Hi ..

    I have bought 2 Foscam IP Cameras and I have done all setting except the port forwarding how can I do it for both of them :

    Description :
    Inbound Port : ( - )
    Type :
    Private IP Address : 192.168.2.(...)
    Private Port : ( - )

    Regards ,,

     
  149. Bubbah Says:
  150. @saud,
    There is a detailed description in this manual to set it up within the camera.
    I've left DDNS unset in the camera and defined it in my router instead (I use it with other devices for FTP and HTTPS).
    For port forwarding, just set the port 80 for both inbound and outbound, the private address being of course the ip cam.

     
  151. edi Says:
  152. i've just received from dealextreme webcam Device ID 00606E79863A,Device Firmware Version 11.14.1.34 . first day after setup wireless worked fine in all rooms upstairs and downstairs, even in the garden. next day stopped and wireless is working only 2 meters from the router. all my other devices works fine on the distance. what could happened? should i update the firmware? it seems it is real foscam but who knows.

     
  153. Bubbah Says:
  154. @edi
    on their page, Foscam warns about DX selling fakes. But still, this shouldn't be the cause. I'd rather thing of a device interfering like a wireless baby phone, or camera (non-wifi), a microwave. Maybe changing the wifi channel may help ? Usually ch.11 gives best results.

     
  155. edi Says:
  156. mystery is resolved. i opened the cam and found that antenna cable was nearly cut. how it happened i don't know but manage to fix it and cam is working like it should.

     
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  158. Erik Says:
  159. Hello,

    Can someone help us. We have 3 camera's in the network. But only one will we see in the software. After some reachearch we saw that the Device ID of the 3 camera's are the same. I think dat our network is having some difficulty's with this.

    Can someone help us... thanx

     
  160. Bubbah Says:
  161. @Erik,
    That's been reported with clones of Foscam cameras. In this post, there is a document, "serial upgrade instructions.txt" which is part of the recovery files.
    At the end of this document they explain a command to change the MAC address, "set-mac0 00:11:22:33:55:66". I didn't try this since I don't have that problem, but it could be your solution.

     
  162. Paweł Says:
  163. About recording video when alarm is triggered.

    Here is my solution. You need 1 unix or gnu server with Exim or other mail transfer agent that allows message redirects to script through pipe. On this machine you should add some mail alias that causes all e-mails addressed to it to be pushed to some shell script. It is also possible to do it as user, e.g. in .forward file.

    In my case the Exim mailer files look like this:

    http://pastie.org/787495

    You may want to do it in more simple way, just by adding a proper line(s) to your .procmailrc or .forward file.

    You will also need some script that is executed when e-mail arrives:

    http://pastie.org/787511

    Set up some variables there, like SENDER containing sender's e-mail set in camera's panel. It is highly recommened that you'll adapt it to your needs, especially when using the same e-mail account to receive e-mails and to watch alerts from a camera. Consult your MTA's manual to see what are your options to obtain sender of each message processed by script.

    For example if you're going to use procmail you may want to set this environment variable by calling SENDER=`formail -xSender:` there, before calling the script.

    Also take care about URI used to connect and directory used to store clips. You may set there a length of each recorded clip.

    You will need mplayer program on a remote system to receive streams.

    --
    regards,
    pawel

     
  164. Phil Says:
  165. Hi - I have one of the clones, but can get it working in activex and push modes well. Question: Anyone know how I can multicast the stream onto a webpage? Thanks, Phil

     
  166. Bubbah Says:
  167. @Phil
    You can find this in the item #8 of the FAQ page.
    A reader posted a code sample in the comments of this post. Once there, look for Stefan in the latest comments.

     
  168. Phil Says:
  169. Fantastic! Thanks Bubbah!

     
  170. welshtiger Says:
  171. Can users post where they bought theirs and who from.

    I just emailed uk ebay seller ( savemoneyforyou )and he replied this.

    Thanks for kindly reply .
    The cam is made by Easynp NOT foscom

    There are other sellers on ebay selling from as cheap as £48, is it still NOT worth buying a clone camera ?

    thanks in advance

     
  172. Bubbah Says:
  173. @welshtiger
    some people managed to get firmware update from Easynp, which is a good thing, see the latest comments below this post. Another that looks quite active on developing fw, is MayGion (sold in white boxes @ dealextreme.com, others red/white boxed are counterfeit Foscam)
    I don't know how good is the support from the competitors, but I found Foscam customer support very reactive: I obtained updates, CGI documentation and even the method to recover a bricked camera. They also tend to take our comments and bug reports into account (they'll be a bit absent this month because of the Chinese New Year).

    If you want recommended shops for Foscam products, they give some on this page.

     
  174. welshtiger Says:
  175. Thank you Bubbah for the above info, i received my f sries camera today. It was from the seller above so expecting it to be Easynp but not sure how to find this out as i haven't plugged the camera in yet.

    I got all the parts and installation cd with details, but being from china ( only 6 days to deliver ) yippee :D

    I am wondering if there is an easy or english explanation on setting this camera up.

    Their best quote at the bottom of the instructions is:

    We are keep working hard !! lol

    I understand i have to plug power cable in and turn it on, because i have a wireless router, do i still need to plug in the internet cable (RJ45) from router to camera ?

    Then i guess i need to use the approiate software to find the device?

    any help much appreciated, i like to make sure before i know what to do before going ahead.

    many thanks

     
  176. welshtiger Says:
  177. That last comment by me sounded have backwards to lol ( its catching )

     
  178. Bubbah Says:
  179. @welshtiger,
    Actually, all you need is on this blog.
    Just filter on IP camera tag and you'll find a compatible 3rd party software list, a startup guide, and a IP camera user guide (the one coming with Foscam) in the firmware page (just don't try to load these fw to your camera, they're not compatible).

    You do need to plug the Ethernet the first time. My startup guide will give you all the details.

     
  180. welshtiger Says:
  181. Thankyou for your quick response and links.

    Top man 5++++

     
  182. Remko Says:
  183. Hi,

    Is there a way to change the SMTP-user without using the menu/software?
    It's because of our 21-length-username... while the maximum of characters is 20 in this field...

    And is there an example of how to use it with a standard gmail-account?
    I can't get it working... I'd like to send a mail when the alarm-motion detects movements..

    I use the Foscam FI8908W.

    Many thanks

     
  184. Bubbah Says:
  185. @Remko,
    check the IPCAM CGI SDK documentation here. You could try setting the user value for through set_mail.cgi but I'm afraid it will still not accept more than 20 characters.

    For using a Gmail account, see item #3 in this FAQ.

     
  186. Radu Says:
  187. Hi,
    1.My ISP does not support SMTP without authentication. How can I make mail works?
    2.Trying to link through FTP to a Linux NAS. I have error:"Test ... Failed
    Can not access the folder. Please be sure the folder exists and your account is authorized". But both user/pass and folder exits
    Thank you

     
  188. Bubbah Says:
  189. @Radu
    1. If you have an SMTP account with that ISP, just click the box "need authentication" in camera settings and enter your login. If you don't have an account, try any other SMTP from a competitor for instance (Google for "free smtp server"). Once the smtp set up, you can specify any email address as "sender" or "receiver", including Gmail.

    2. I have that sometimes with settings that I know are correct. Rebooting the device sometimes help and the test suddenly works after that. Also try from both "ActiveX" and "server push mode". I still suspect that the later does not save properly some settings.

     
  190. Radu Says:
  191. Hi Bubbah,
    Thank you for reply.
    1. My ISP does not provide any email account at all. I'm using free web emails like Gmail and GMX. I have tried to configure Gmail using configuration from here: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=13287
    a) for port 587 I have error like "Test ... Failed
    The server does not support the authentication mode used by the device"
    b) I have tested also port 465 and I have error: "Test ... Failed
    Can not connect to the server"

    2. for FTP nothing change. I have same error: "Test ... Failed
    Can not access the folder. Please be sure the folder exists and your account is authorized"

    I have to specify both configurations (mail+ftp) made in Internet Explorer to have ActiveX
    Thank you

     
  192. Bubbah Says:
  193. @Radu
    1. the camera does not support SSL so you can't use Gmail SMTP as explained in the FAQ page. You need to find and use one of those free smtp servers around for the smtp, then you can secify wathever gmail or other as sender or receiver.
    2. try the ftp in windows to ensure that you can access that ftp server you setup from a dos box as well. Again no encryption is supported here, it must be plain ftp

     
  194. Radu Says:
  195. Hi,
    1. Do you know such a smtp server over the Internet to not require smtp authentication?I have google for 30 min and I did not find such a service
    2. I have removed authentication at all for ftp server and still same error: "Can not access the folder. Please be sure the folder exists and your account is authorized".
    I have checked FTP in Windows over Firefox browser ftp://serverIP/ and works perfect without any authentication.
    Thank you

     
  196. Radu Says:
  197. This post has been removed by the author.  
  198. Radu Says:
  199. FTP fixed
    The problem is that camera ftp see as root the "home" folder
    Create a folder called ftp inside home and in FTP Upload Folder write /ftp
    If you write /home/ftp you will got error
    I have still error with email because I am not founding any smtp server without authorization
    Regards

     
  200. jeanslevi Says:
  201. can this cam make a folder by ftp upload?

     
  202. Bubbah Says:
  203. @jeanslevi
    nope, it only can store to a fixed location and create filenames made of camera name and time

     
  204. I need some help.
    I`ve just started trying to use the camera, but i think it`s broken.
    When I plug into my net (router), it is just not recognized. The 'IP Camera Tool' stills blank, with no list of cams. If I put arp -a in Command Prompt, there is no new IP.
    I changed the cable, and tryed in a lot of ways... I can`t see the camera or even its ip. It`s not connected into the net.
    Does anyone can help me? I don`t know what to do...

    Thanks,


    Rodrigo

     
  205. Bubbah Says:
  206. Rodrigo Rodrigues:
    Does the camera rotates on startup and the green led blinks ? That's the normal startup process and the led blinking would indicate that its scanning for a network. If not, no need to test further, it may well be defective.
    If it does search for a network (see the "faq for ip cameras" on this blog for meaning of blinking rates), then ensure that you do not use MAC filtering on your router. You can also try plugging your camera RJ45 directly to your PC (it's cross-link aware), give your pc a static ip address and start the camera. If the IP camera tool finds it, you'll know it's a problem on your router.
    Good luck

     
  207. Christian Says:
  208. Hi,
    Just bought a foscam and i'm trying to set it up to view through the net, ive configured ddns account but when ever i try logging in through the browser it seems to take me too the router rather than the camera. I'm a total noob with this set up and any help or suggestions would be great.

     
  209. Bubbah Says:
  210. @Christian:
    You need to setup some port forwarding in the router. Basically it will tell the router to forward any incoming request port 80 to the port 80 a specific ip address (your camera here)of your lan. This is generally done in conjunction of a free Dynamic DNS service like dyndns.com or noip.com that will give you a free dns name and keep in touch with your router to always redirect your url to your current external ip address.
    The camera manual contains a detailed explanation on that. You can find this manual on this blog in the firmware page.

     
  211. izahan Says:
  212. Hi,

    I just bought not foscam ipcamera with detail below...

    Device ID 00606E7C66ED
    Device Firmware Version 0.11.1.42
    Device Embeded Web UI Version 18.5.2.9

    I want to upgrade the fw & Web UI Ver... but how..?

     
  213. Bubbah Says:
  214. @izahan:
    These firmware versions are not from Foscam. Ask the seller who's the manufacturer and try to get a compatible firmware directly from him.

     
  215. welshtiger Says:
  216. Good afternoon
    It still may seem easy to some, but i am a complete noob when it comes to internet settings, port forwarding etc,

    After i have made a ddns account, do i enter my

    router adsl ip address which changes every couple days or so
    router lan ip address
    or the ip address i have assigned in the IP camera

    ( router DG834GT )

    also: Is there any way i can check my IP Camera from an outside source at home or would i need to check to see if i have done it correctly from a computer outside my lan.

     
  217. Bubbah Says:
  218. welshtiger:
    The purpose of using ddns is to have the router provide its current ip address to the ddns service on regular intervals which in turn associates it to a dns name of your choice.
    To take a example using DynDNS.com:
    On DynDNS.com, log in using your account and under My Services > My Hosts, click Add host services.
    There, choose a hostname and any of the available free domains from the drop box, like myipcam.dnsalias.org
    Leave service type as Host with IP address
    Then enter your external ip address of the moment. You see it in the string below "Your current location's IP address is ..."
    That's it for the DynDNS setup
    Now in your dg834gt router:
    go to Dynamic DNS menu
    click "Use a Dynamic DNS Service"
    Enter the same hostname, user and password that you used on DynDNS.
    That will allow the router to log in regularly and update DynDNS with any ip address change.

    Finally define some port forwarding in your router so that any incoming request from "outside" coming on port 80 (or other if you decided otherwise), would be redirected to the port 80 of the specific internal ip of the camera(or wathever port defined on the camera)

    I hope this helps.

     
  219. Frederic Says:
  220. Hi,

    I just tried to use this Foscam IP camera with my synology Rackstation RS407. I am able to configure it usign the user define camera type, when i click the "test Camra" button, i can see my image.
    But when I go into live view, no way to see an image (usign Internet explorer).
    I also configured the recording as permanent but I could not find any recording in my recordign folder.

    I just did the same with a Panasonic BL-C10 Netcam and all worked fine.

    Any help welcomed regarding my problem with Foscam.

     
  221. welshtiger Says:
  222. @ Bubbah

    Yes that was very understandable, i had my camera IP address ( 192.168.### set in DNNS, so have now changed it to my external IP address
    ( You see it in the string below "Your current location's IP address is ..." )

    I got confused because when putting my host name into explorer i thought it had to take me to my ipcamera which it did when using camera ip address. Now i have entered the external ip address, it takes me to my router.

    I think i have set the port forwarding correctly in the router, couldnt use port 80 because i was having message saying it was already being used so picked another one.

    Am i right in saying, i access my camera from work etc, using the camera's ip address and port number in explorer ? I can access it on my lan without any problems using ip address and port and cant wait to try it from an outside source.

    Sorry again for my long post and your detailed explaination as i expect you get loads of questions to answer each day, its a very very useful site and youe explainations and details of how thinmgs work are much easier to understand than any manual.

    cheers

     
  223. Bubbah Says:
  224. @welshtiger:
    Testing your ddns url from inside your lan may give optimistic results. The real test needs to be done from the outside world, or by doing a remote desktop session to a PC that is outside.
    Also, your network work may have restrictions in place so it wouldn't accept any http traffic on another port than 80. That's my case. I have 3 cameras and port forwarding is set like:
    external http 80 -> ipcamera1:80
    external http 82 -> ipcamera2:80
    external http 84 -> ipcamera3:80
    but only http://mycamera.dyndns.net:80 can go through while all others work only if using my mobile operator network.

     
  225. welshtiger Says:
  226. I wont complicate myself with more than 1 camera at the moment lol.
    I understand that from work, it may have restrictions in place although work was an example. I actually want to view my home from my weekend residence. I have set the port forward in the router correctly i think and cant wait until the weekend to try it.

    many thanks for now

     
  227. Stefan Says:
  228. @ALL

    Here's a great site for portforwarding:

    http://www.portforward.com/default.htm

    Hope it helps to understand/learn how it works.
    Stefan

     
  229. 2raj Says:
  230. I have a clone and I can't workout how to use the connectors at the back of the camera.

    All the manual offers about these is the following confusing test:

    "I/O interface: 1 router alarm input, accept 3, 4 two terminals (input terminal grounding, Low level effective trigger); 1 router TTL control input, connect 1, 2 two Terminals (1, 2 terminals short connections)."

    I need to buy more of these cameras. I am going buy Foscam cameras now. But is Foscam's manual any better? Does it offer any decent information on these connectors?

    Thanks heaps in advance.

     
  231. Bubbah Says:
  232. @2raj
    The Foscam manual can be downloaded from their site. They explain "a bit" better.

    I also included a short overview of the RS485 connector usage in this other post.

     
  233. Bubbah Says:
  234. @Frederic:
    That's maybe a bug in your version of Surveillance Station.
    I've tried this on my DS109 (DSM 2.2-0965) and it works fine.
    My settings are:
    camera model="user define" and source path=/videostream.cgi

    You should ensure that you have the latest firmware (DSM 2.2-0959 for your model). it's available from their Download Center.

     
  235. welshtiger Says:
  236. @Bubbah

    Thankyou for your detailed explaination, tried it out at the weekend away from home with dnns host url and port number, logged in and it worked fine, PTZ etc. Next step is to read up on motion detection so it takes a clip or record short video and send it to my email. I have read about another user having Gmail, is this type of account ok because its what i use.

    thanks

     
  237. Bubbah Says:
  238. @welshtiger
    While you can use your gmail address both as "sender" and "receiver", you can't use smtp.gmail.com since the camera does not supports SSL/TLS encryption. You'll have to find a free smtp server like there are many out there. Most don't require any authentication so you don't need to have an actual email account from them. Try your ISP's or mobile operator's smtp.

     
  239. tothrobbie Says:
  240. Hello !

    Please somebody help me !

    I have a clone version camera. It's not working since i installed the latest system firmware :(. Can i restore it ? if yes, how ?

    Thx

     
  241. Bubbah Says:
  242. @tothrobbie
    there's a recovery procedure documented on this blog, but the recovery files are only compatible with Foscam, you'd need to identify the camera maker and obtain valid files from him.

     
  243. SWED.MIKE Says:
  244. Hello Bubbah!
    Pleased to meet you! I have some problem,you see i discovered i have gbbought some clone cameras, they must be..They have the original box, but... Now i have a customer and hes camera doesent make the horizontal patrol when it starts up. He couldent rotate it at all, just upp and down. it must be damaged i guess.
    Are those cameras worthless, i meaan those are not original..

    Brs Mike

     
  245. Bubbah Says:
  246. @SWED.MIKE
    Hello, I must say that I had an similar incident with a white Foscam in the past and had to return it (a shiny white plastic version where the plastic casing was too soft to keep the grip on the camera ball,...err... sphere), so I don't think the physical quality of the camera varies much between Foscam and clones. The more annoying problem with some fakes is that they managed to have all the same MAC for Wifi, and many were reported to have Wifi antenna badly connected to the inside PCB.
    To find out for sure if it's a Foscam, you should email them with the DeviceID of the camera. They always reply.

     
  247. SWED.MIKE Says:
  248. Hello Bubbah!!
    I thank you for the answer my friend!!!
    I ask the seller where the cameras come from and she said: foxcam?? ...And i said: with foscam box, there was no reply.
    And now another friend ask me if i know why the sound doesent work..only if he streamed it With vlc it was possible..Sorry for my bad spelling.

    Regards Mike in Sweden

     
  249. Bubbah Says:
  250. @SWED.MIKE:
    Hi Mike, the sound works as well from the ActiveX interface under IE, but you need to press one of those tiny icons ont the screen.
    If you use the "Push server" mode, then it's normal that you only have the video streaming available.

     
  251. Paillassou Says:
  252. FYI => french forum talking about FI8908W
    http://forum.hardware.fr/hfr/HardwarePeripheriques/Webcam/fi8908w-vision-nocturne-sujet_50586_1.htm

     
  253. Paillassou Says:
  254. THANKS A LOT for ALL informations found on this topic ;o)

     

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