MayGion H264 IPC: A look at the new release

May 29, 2013


Since the first release of the Maygion H.264 IP Camera in 2012, there's been a lot of progress made both on the software and the hardware side.

While the price didn't change, the value has increased...




... until you're dead or I find someone better (Starship Trooper - 1997)
I've accumulated many different IP Cameras over time, and their location in my house reflects their rank (best cameras for the most important rooms).

The Maygion H.264 (aka H502W, WIP604MW) pushed away the other models to become the full-time guardian of my living room, making it the de-facto Nr.1.

When I stated above that the price didn't change, it's not completely true:
From an E.U. perspective, It ends up cheaper buying from UK (~80€ Tax & Shipping incl.) than from China (~100€ with shipping and customs duty paid).  The delivery time and effective product guarantee (how much are you willing to pay to ship it back to China?) are also factors to consider.

The LED ring sensor is now properly
shielded to prevent Night/Day mode
switching problem.
My first, 2012, unit had basic features and the famous Night/Day mode switch problem, partly caused by a flaw in the LED ring itself. The manufacturer resolved the issue now and there's no need to tweak the settings or open the camera anymore.
Six month and as many firmware updates later, the list of features has increased, with more languages and the addition of P2P and ONVIF protocol support (that I still consider as in progress though)

My very first action with this new IPC was to use the url http://192.168.1.111:81/board.dat in order to backup the precious license file. The camera came in version 05.53 with the OEM user interface.

This interface is very easy to customize and some distributors provide their own User Interface. Dericam download section has one and also some interesting content like the updated Maygion repair tool.

P2P
There's a label on the bottom of the camera with an unique DDNS url and userid. The device is already set for this DDNS and can directly be accessed from the Internet without further struggling with your router.
The QR code at the base of the camera can be scanned from iPhone apps like P2P Master (Android version just out!) to insert the device information directly.

ONVIF

With ONVIF standard, an IP Camera client does not need to keep track of thousands of models, just one Onvif "brand" that will work for any compliant  camera.
It's not yet fully implemented and works partially in Synology's Surveillance Station. Something to follow closely.



The CD included in the box contains the IPCamTool to locate and configure the camera on the network
The viewer utility, "Master", regroups the same range of functions as the ActiveX web interface but in a slightly more convenient interface in my opinion.

Unleashed potential ?
Still no preset positions: 
Despite all the software improvements and the presence of html pages preset.htm inside the camera, there's still no way to define preset positions or video masks (videomask.htm) and I can only think of some hardware limitation for such common features to be still absent today.

SSL, one day? Some other inside content suggest that the camera would be able to support SSL, but all this could also just be part of a common framework and reserved for higher grade or future models.

Conclusion:
Despite lacking of some common features like preset positions and video area masking, the Dericam H502W is a nice and solid IP Camera, delivering a superb image quality and constantly improved by means of firmware updates. It's one of the first in that price range to adopt the ONVIF protocol and a dream come true for hackers (the hobbyist kind of hacker, I thought I'd need to clarify...)




Many thanks to Microsat.co.uk for providing me with the new Maygion H.264 reviewed here 
as well as for all the help and information given in the last few months!



Please note: The unit reviewed here is a OEM, non-branded H.264 IP Camera, which software is developed by Maygion. It is otherwise sold by Dericam  as H502W, by Cybernova  as WIP604MW, by Eyesight as ES-IP902W, by Chinavasion asCVL-I234-2GEN, by Anxin as HW-M1007RNBCT... .

15 comments:

  1. do you know a trusted seller who sells theese? Im in Sweden, Microsat does not sell to EU, only UK.

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    1. Hi
      I currently have limited stock, new stock on the way!
      I will be able to Ship to EU again in the near future.
      Regards
      Pete

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  2. Inside EU, there's ipcam-shop.nl or, direct from china: Andy.lig

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  3. Henke_S.

    We sell to the EU countries without any problems. Shipping inside EU costs 15 EUR.
    http://www.bticam.pl/p34,kamera-ip-wifi-b-g-n-model-bt-h08w-p2p-sd-3-6mm.html

    contact us: sales@bticam.com

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  4. Which IP HD camera you recommend me for home use, and the price ~200$?which is the best choice?

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    1. Similarly, do you recommend this Maygion H.264 over the Tenvis IPRobot3? They both look to have roughly the same spec and price.

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    2. My preference goes to the Maygion above despite some still missing basic features. They regularly update the firmware, their after-sale service proved good (from both Dericam and Cybernova).
      I trust Tenvis is willing to come up with a good IP camera but with the current firmware it's just too bad. They have for them, however, a better Onvif implementation, area masking and position presets, but sadly no system log and no config backup, and unstable firmware. Good after-sale service too, but only one minor firmware update in six months! If they could get their acts together with the IPR3 it would be a different story.
      I believe that both models need a revised hardware version to finally have all the right features in place (I suspect the white IPR3 to be a revised hardware already).

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    3. Thanks for your detailed reply Bubbah.

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  5. Hi,
    I have a DSN-D9 bought in oct 2013 and the camera sometimes doesn't go into night mode. I'm not talking about the camera switching modes when twilight, I'm talking when conditions are complete darkness. Any ideas?
    Software Version: H.264 6.16
    Web Version: ipcam(2013.10.28)
    Firmware Build Date: Nov 5 2013 07:50:17

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  6. Hi Emilio,
    The firmware version corresponds to the latest available from Maygion.com, the originating developer. I found a topic on Dericam forum (selling the same device) where some people on various versions of firmware complain about the same issue, so I would exclude a fault in the software. The IR LED ring is notorious to be of poor quality, LED die one after another, and so does the photocell sometimes.

    If you tried to activate the IR manually and doesn't work, the LED would be dead, you can check that by pointing any digital camera to the DSN-D9 and check if you see any purple light from the LED ring.
    If the IR works manually but not in auto, then the photocell would be dead.

    Your options would be to try getting a spare LED board shipped from DSN. Some resellers were providing them free in the past as it is such a common fault. Otherwise you could buy one for about 8$ from Andy.lig on ebay.

    Good luck

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    1. Thanks bubba, the camera is 1000 km away from me... However, it does switch to night mode most of the time, occasionally it won't.

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    2. One more question can you tweak the night/day mode sensitivity via some config file?

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  7. There is a tweak that applied to situations where the LED on the early models would flicker repeatedly at dusk/dawn phases the camera couldn't decide on the day or night mode to keep. The trick was to ftp the cs.def.ini and cs.ini to change or add the portion below:

    [board/irled]
    automode=1
    open=0
    switchSeconds=60

    ...in order to add a delay (switchSeconds) so the camera would not switch on a off during the dusk or dawn phases. Maybe you could try the opposite (lower value), but I'm not sure it will help much.

    More details: here and there.

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    1. You could also contact the developer at Maygion.com, his email address is on the web site, he would know if any option can be changed.

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